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Old 12-13-2013, 01:46 AM   #51
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If a jury is presented with a case where one is charged with five counts "of something" the accused is going to be convicted on one or more of those charges. Prosecutors routinely stack charges (what it's called) and whether they are legitimate or not, a typical American jury will believe that with so many charges the man or woman must be guilty of something and will generally convict on at least one charge.

And pray you are never before a jury and if you are the case isn't sent to them on a Friday. You will most certainly be convicted as they can't be bothered to deliberate on a weekend. They might miss their beer and ballgame.
Good to know! It makes sense that would be a good strategy to convict people with ("stacking"). Makes sense about Friday too . Sad. Do you think that having lesser included charges could actually help distract the jury from charging them with the felony when they otherwise would, a chance of that, or is that a fairly crackpot theory legally speaking on how things normally go? Or is more likely the lesser included charges would still hurt them, and have the "stacking" effect?
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:21 AM   #52
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True Bill or No True Bill is only applicable in grand jury proceedings.
Not when the presentments are a Bill of Information, such as here. In this case it would lock the prosecution into a charge that the facts don't bear out.

At most they might have won a trial based on the class A misdemeanor, Menacing, and the facts will not support the felony charge in a fair forum.

If you are 'over-charged' by the state you can elect to be tried on that charge alone, or a judge may throw the charge out (on Motion to Dismiss) because the elements reported by police will not support conviction under the statute charged.

The prosecution/sheriff intentionally over charged them, to get a no-bond hold. Now he should be forced to prove his lie.
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I was looking through the City of Leith's website. Pictures of the benefit dinner/fundraiser last weekend were posted. It looked like a Leith City council meeting with a few less people. There were many empty chairs.
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I noticed that also.
You would think that the amount of Indians from the reserve were more than willing to show up in Leith when it was warm and nice out.
Turn the temperature down a bit and only one token indian shows up.
Gets his picture taken then heads back to the reserve.
Where were the rest of them.??
I think that if Craig had announced his plans for Leith when winter hit, it would have not even been noticed.
Craig would have just watched them freezing their asses off drinking hot cocoa from his warm house.
Maybe that should be kept in mind for the next town.

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Old 12-13-2013, 04:57 AM   #55
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I was looking through the City of Leith's website. Pictures of the benefit dinner/fundraiser last weekend were posted. It looked like a Leith City council meeting with a few less people. There were many empty chairs.
I guess maybe the people around there are coming to their senses.
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The prosecution/sheriff intentionally over charged them, to get a no-bond hold. Now he should be forced to prove his lie.
I saw the videos and believe CC and KD will walk. There isn't even a case here to charge CC and KD with under the laws of ND.

I would however charge the neighbor with assault which there is evidence of in the videos. The police, as reported, are under staffed and cannot effectively protect the properties of CC. At several points there have been unequal protections by the SO of Grant County, ND.
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They could have "constructively" been found on the menacing charge, but police almost always over-charge defendants and prosecutors try to make the charge stick, when they know better.

The problems arise when the defense lawyers, who consider themselves more 'officer of the court' than defense lawyer, and they allow the lesser included charges to be found for at trial. If you don't know the law, as a defendant, you can and usually are hamstrung by the bastard you are paying to guide your defense.
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information n (normally called a bill of information)
: an instrument containing a formal accusation of a crime that is issued by a prosecuting officer and that serves the same function as an indictment presented by a grand jury compare complaint , indictment NOTE: About half the states in the United States allow prosecutors to issue informations. The rest require indictment.

See more at: http://dictionary.findlaw.com/defini....BQ5dw5H3.dpuf
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Somewhere along the way in this matter, I picked up that Bruce Gregory served six tours in Vietnam? Is that factual?
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Somewhere along the way in this matter, I picked up that Bruce Gregory served six tours in Vietnam? Is that factual?
If he did, it was in the rear with the gear. No grunt would have survived six tours in the bush.
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